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  Evolution #3.1416 - this seems to sum up recent activity on this board

  by sir82 in

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  http://www.gocomics.com/tomthedancingbug.

  this fits so, so, so perfectly!

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  Nice one :-D
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

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  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  So, if I understand correctly...

  1 guy who never researched anything related to geology, biology, chemistry, astronomy, etc say: "Nature exists, therefore an invisible person living in the sky must have created it"

  is more compelling to you than all the evidence (including visible evidence, and there for everyone to check for themselves) that tens of thousands of people who thoroughly researched their specific fields have discovered?

  
  

  And is the claim by that ancient person in Rom 1.20 more credible than my following claim?

  "Life on earth has been created by 3 invisible, undetectable pink dudes living on Mars. By just looking at their creation their power is shown, and everyone should thank them for that".
  
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

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  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  @Fisherman,

  Apparently not.

  Please educate me, as we are trying to educate you. And please be as specific as you are requiring cofty to be.

  If you are simply referring to looking at the universe and everything in it...well that's just evidence they exist, no divine creator to be seen.

  If that is your resoning I could apply that 'evidence' to any of the creation myths that exist. And their existence only is just as much evidence of big bang and evolution.

  So please state at least some specific evidence for divine creation.
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  Anders Andersen

  briefly list the strongest evidence that show that humans evolved from any non human.

  While that is being compiled, can you then please list the evidence (as has been requested before) there is for divine creation?
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  Anders Andersen

  About the entropy: earth is not a closed system.

  The sun is constantly sending energy to earth, and heat is constantly radiating from earth into space.

  Here is some reading material for those who wish to educate themselves:

  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo.html

  http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm
  
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  @Fisherman,

  Your very one-sided way of reading and bolding the quote shows you're not willing to be honest and understand what the writer really said. Your Watchtower is showing.

  Thomson remarks: "Change over time is a fact, and descent from common ancestors is based on such unassailable [meaning undeniable] logic that we act as though it is a fact.
  Biologists consider it to be a scientific fact that evolution

  So your own quote shows that the evidence is so overwhelming that evolution cannot be denied, and that those who actually know the subject best consider it a fact for all intents and purposes.

  And here you are trying to bend a statement that confirms the robustness of the theory of evolution into a basis on which you can deny the undeniable.

  Besides that, you have artfully tried dodge the questions I submitted:

  If you cannot accept evolution because it is 'not a fact' while the evidence that supports it makes those who are experts in biology consider it a fact, on what basis are you accepting Bronze age myths as fact, maybe even absolute truth?

  Is the evidence (if any) that you accept for any gods' existence more compelling than the evidence that supports evolution?

  Is there any evidence that your specific God exists?

  Can you present that evidence please?

  Can anyone consider the existence of God a fact more than evolution can be considered a fact?

  
  

  BTW, please don't bother replying with more of your word soup. I really don't care about that quote, or about your tries to make words change meaning.

  Unless you have a direct (and somewhat readable) answer to (one of) my questions I probably won't read your reaction.

  Have a good life!

  
  
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  The Bread Illustration (Feb 16 Broadcast) - Massive Contradiction

  by fizzle in

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  so... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".

  he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?

  jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?

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  Haven't seen the propaganda movie, but from the description I think one thing is very clear:

  Who is doing the contaminating in the illustration?

  
  

  So who causes people to become 'apostates', or who causes people to sin against the HS?

  
  

  Must be the GB and it's helper minions...:-D
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  When is a theory 'just a theory'?

  by HB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".

  richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.

  the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .

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  @Fisherman,

  And every time I am simply amazed, stunned, flabbergasted that people who do not accept evolution "because it cannot be proven" readily accept the existence of a God and the truth of ancient stories for which no evidence has ever been produced.

  Someone who rejects evolution for supposed lack of evidence (which is really just lack of knowledge of that claimer's side) should be honest enough to rejects all gods, miracles and ancient stories for even worse lack of evidence.
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  God & universe #1 - God's position and authority

  by Anders Andersen in

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  while thinking about the nature of god, i suddenly thought of something else: how jw speak about god in relation to the universe.. they say that.

  jehovah created the universe.

  destroying satan and answering the questions that were raised in eden will restore peace and unity in the whole universe.. .

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  @mephis,

  Thanks for the link about the Canaanite religions. Very interesting read.

  Especially the part about Canaanite gods of war requiring human sacrifices...you know just like Jahweh demanding all citizens of enemy cities be put to death since they belonged to him (=human sacrifice) :-(
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  Do Witness children die from not taking blood?

  by juandefiero in

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  yes - awake!

  1994 may 22 p.2 youths who put god first (3-15).

  "in former times thousands of youths died for putting god first.

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  Anders Andersen

  Too lazy to do some calculations now, but my guess is that JW killed more JW with the blood ban than the Nazi's did in WW2.

  And that totally makes sense: Jehovah killed more of his own people than Satan ever did. So JW really are trying to be like Jehovah.... :-(